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Podcast Episodes
Episode 1: Why We Are Doing This
Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org
FDA website for package inserts: https://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/ucm093833.htm
Federal Law VIS forms: http://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p2027.pdf
Federal Law 1986 Act: https://www.nvic.org/about/notable-accomplishments-and-history.aspx
CDC schedule: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/index.html
Vaccine schedule Infographic: http://immunityeducationgroup.org/infographics/
Episode 2: Vaccine Media Sound Bites
Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org
Psychology Today Article: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/two-takes-depression/201106/if-it-bleeds-it-leads-understanding-fear-based-media
Pharmaceutical Advertising on News Networks: https://www.periscopegroup.com/news/breaking-news/corruption-before-consumers-copy-copy
Vaccine Schedule Never Tested for Safety: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK206938/
95% Herd Immunity Estimate: https://academic.oup.com/aje/article-abstract/117/1/2/87767?redirectedFrom=fulltext
Episode 3: The Vaccine Schedule – 69 Doses and Rising
Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org
CDC schedule: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/index.html
Vaccine schedule Infographic: http://immunityeducationgroup.org/infographics/
Episode 4: Informed Consent- Are We Really Getting It?
Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org
AMA Code: https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/ethics/informed-consent
Informed Consent Study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2840885/
VIS forms: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/current-vis.html
Episode 5: Attacking Medical Exemptions?
Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org
Study on Implementation of SB277 and Medical Exemptions: https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/142/5/e20181051
Understanding SB277: http://immunityeducationgroup.org/understanding-the-new-vaccine-law-in-california/
Episode 6: Media, Measles, and Misinformation
Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org
NBC article on measles in Europe: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/measles-outbreak-raging-europe-could-be-brought-u-s-doctors-n922146
Episode 7: The Flu Vaccine Debate – Part 1
Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org
CBS article on the Flu: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/flu-deaths-u-s-estimates-80000-americans-died-of-flu-and-its-complications-last-winter-2018-09-26/
Dr. Brownstein’s article on inflated numbers from the CDC: https://www.drbrownstein.com/more-fake-flu-news-from-the-cdc/
BMJ article on flu policy: https://www.bmj.com/content/333/7574/912
Cochrane Blog: https://community.cochrane.org/news/why-have-three-long-running-cochrane-reviews-influenza-vaccines-been-stabilised
Three Cochrane Reports: https://www.cochrane.org/news/featured-review-three-updated-cochrane-reviews-assessing-effectiveness-influenza-vaccines
NVIC Flu Vaccine side effects: https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/influenza/quick-facts.aspx
Episode 8: The Flu Vaccine Debate – Part 2
Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org
Cochrane Op eds: http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Cochrane+review+vaccine+definitive+health+officer+suggests/7543272/story.html and http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Opinion+Scientist+fires+latest+shot+mandatory+vaccine+debate/7572719/story.html
California law prohibiting mercury flu shots to pregnant woman and children under 3: https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/Immunization/laws.aspx
Peter Doshi study about Flu vaccine marketing: https://www.bmj.com/content/346/bmj.f3037.full
Peter Doshi — Are US flu death figures more PR than science? https://www.bmj.com/content/331/7529/1412
Episode 9: Overview of Vaccines and Diseases for Infants – Part 1: 0-6 months old
Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org
CDC schedule: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/index.html
Disease prevalence and vaccine information: The Vaccine Book by Dr. Bob Sears
Episode 10: Why Are More Highly Educated People More Likely to Question Vaccines?
Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org
Names of Studies Referenced:
Children who have receive no vaccines: who are they and where do they live? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Children+Who+Have+Received+No+Vaccines%3A+Who+Are+They+and+Where+Do+They+Live%3F+(2004)
Deciding to opt out of childhood vaccination mandates (2008) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Deciding+to+opt+out+of+childhood+vaccination+mandates+(2008)
Differences in risk factors for partial and no immunisation in the first year of life: prospective cohort study (U.K.) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Differences+in+risk+factors+for+partial+and+no+immunisation+in+the+first+year+of+life%3A+prospective+cohort+study+(U.K.)
Parents attitudinal and social influences on childhood vaccination (1992) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Parents+attitudinal+and+social+influences+on+childhood+vaccination+(1992)
Neoliberal Mothering and Vaccine Refusal (2014) https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0891243214532711
Episodes 11 to 32 – resources coming soon!
Episode 33: Meningococcal: the Disease and the Vaccine
Some disease stats and VAERS data on the vaccine:
https://www.nvic.org/Vaccines-and-Diseases/Meningitis.aspx
Episode 36: Are Japanese People Healthier Because They Vaccinate Less Than We Do?
A Review of Factors Affecting Vaccine Preventable Disease in Japan: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4300546/
CNN article on world health rankings for child and infant mortality: https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/08/health/child-mortality-rates-by-country-study-intl/index.html
Lawsuits in Japan over HPV vaccine reactions: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/02/13/national/crime-legal/suit-opens-tokyo-court-cervical-cancer-vaccine-side-effects/
Episode 39: Pertussis Update
Genomic Survey Of Bordetella Pertussis Diversity, United States, 2000 - 2013. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6433035/?report=classic
The 112- year odyssey of pertussis and pertussis vaccines — mistakes made and implications for the future. https://academic.oup.com/jpids/advance-article-abstract/doi/10.1093/jpids/piz005/5359449
Harvard-Westlake high school pertussis outbreak. https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-ln-whooping-cough-vaccine-20190316-story.html
LA Times: Why did so many CA kids get whooping cough despite being vaccinated? https://www.latimes.com/health/la-me-whooping-cough-20160205-story.html
DTP mortality studies:
https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/33/2/374/715842 - 4.5 times higher mortality rate after DTP vaccine
And
https://www.bmj.com/content/355/bmj.i5170 - shows less of an effect - about 1.5 times higher mortality rate
Ep 42: How the FDA Manipulates the Media
Article: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/flu-vaccine-recommendation.htm
Article: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-the-fda-manipulates-the-media/
Ep 45: Tetanus: The Disease and the Vaccine
NVIC tetanus info: https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/Tetanus/quick-facts.aspx
Ep 46: Are Rich People Leading the Vaccine-Educated Movement?
Rich people are leading the anti-vaccine movement - and experts have a theory why - http://money.com/money/5641663/anti-vaccine-rich-people/
Ep 51: Vaccine Reactions, Vaccine Overdose, and Denying Informed Consent
CDC/ACIP Guidelines on Contraindications and Precautions: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/acip-recs/general-recs/contraindications.pdf
Ep 52: How to Grow a Healthy Immune System
Harvard article - https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/how-to-boost-your-immune-system
Dr. Suzanne Humphries Vitamin C Protocol - (scroll down to THE PROTOCOL near the bottom): http://drsuzanne.net/2017/10/sodium-ascorbate-vitamin-c-treatment-of-whooping-cough-suzanne-humphries-md/
Recipes at www.PaleoRunningMomma.com
Ep 53: VICP list of compensatable reactions
https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/files/hrsa/vaccine-compensation/vaccine-injury-table.pdf
Ep 54: The REAL Reason We Are Seeing More Outbreaks of Measles
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6741921
Episode 56: Origin of the Anti-Compulsory Vaccination Movement
Article: Class, Gender, and the Conscientious Objector to Vaccination: 1898-1907 https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-british-studies/article/class-gender-and-the-conscientious-objector-to-vaccination-18981907/69A6826787AC35FEB34E0E6ADEB9D114 (Abstract only - access to the full article can be requested from the journal)
SEASON TWO
Episode 59: A Tragic Case — the Heartbreaking Story of Dustin Barton
Court case: Lori Barton v. Secretary of Health and Human Services: https://www.cofc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/opinions/barton2.pdf
Episode 60 and 61: Bringing Truth to Light — An In-Depth Interview with Del Bigtree
Watch The HighWire on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q
Follow him on Facebook: The HighWire with Del Bigtree
Get educated on his ICAN website: https://www.icandecide.org/ - consider donating.
Episode 62: Dr. Bob Sears’ Story in the LA Times
Episode 63: Personal Tragedy to a Personal Mission — In-Depth Interview with V is for Vaccine creator Joshua Coleman
Joshua Coleman’s website: https://www.visforvaccine.com/
Episode 65: Are Febrile Seizures Really Harmless?
Febrile Seizures Tied to High Risk of Mental Illness, Epilepsy - Medscape July 4, 2019: https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/915243
The study that we discussed was just published (after our podcast). Here it is! Evaluation of long-term risk of epilepsy, psychiatric disorders, and mortality among children with recurrent febrile seizures A National Cohort Study in Denmark: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=evaluation+of+long-term+risk+of+epilepsy%2C+psychiatric+disorders%2C+and+mortality+among+children+with+recurrent+febrile+seizures+a+national+cohort+sudy+in+denmark
Link to Measles and MMR vaccine info, including the 1 in 500 risk of seizures: https://physiciansforinformedconsent.org/measles/
Childhood seizures and risk of psychiatric disorders in adolescence and adulthood: a Danish nationwide cohort study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Childhood+seizures+and+risk+of+psychiatric+disorders+Dreier+2018
Temporal Association of Certain Neuropsychiatric Disorders Following Vaccination of Children and Adolescents: A Pilot Case-Control Study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28154539
Episode 66: How to Report a Doctor to the Medical Board for Vaccine Negligence
Link to Dr. Bob’s appearance on Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-162-vaccines-part-1-with-dr-bob-sears/id1359249098?i=1000449626147
Link to Dr. Bob’s appearance on Dr. Berlin’s Informed Pregnancy Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/informed-pregnancy-podcast/id909813658?i=1000449520974
Link to The Guide on How to Report a Doctor to the Medical Board for Vaccine Negligence: https://thevaccineconversationrecording.com/
Episode 67: 1986 Media Coverage of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act
Download Be The Peace: The Vaccine Conversation Podcast Theme Song by Melissa Suzanne: https://music.apple.com/us/album/be-the-peace-the-vaccine-conversation-theme-song-single/1480499775 -- OR, search for it on Spotify and other music platforms - hint, it may be listed as an ALBUM, not a song.
LA Times: Vaccine Injury Fund Bill Approved but Faces Veto - https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-10-20-mn-6535-story.html
NY Times: Reagan Signs Bill on Drug Exports and Payment for Vaccine Injuries - https://www.nytimes.com/1986/11/15/us/reagan-signs-bill-on-drug-exports-and-payment-for-vaccine-injuries.html
Episode 68: A Mother's Incredible Strength -- An In-Depth Interview with Barbara Loe Fisher
Vaccine Injury Epidemic Event (VIE Event) website: https://www.thevieevent.com/
https://nvicadvocacy.org/members/Home.aspx (Legislative Info and Action)
https://thevaccinereaction.org/ (newsletter)
Episode 70: When Vaccine Court Turns Against the Victims
LA Times 2004 Article:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-nov-29-fi-vaccinecourt29-story.html
Stanford Article 2015
https://news.stanford.edu/2015/07/06/vaccine-court-engstrom-070615/
Episode 71: Does Vitamin D Work Better Than the Flu Shot?
Dr. Mercola article: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/02/27/vitamin-d-better-than-flu-vaccine.aspx
Dr. John Cannell initial study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16959053
Medical News Today’s report on Dr. Cannell’s early work: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/51913.php
British Medical Journal Study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Vitamin+d+supplementation+to+prevent+acute+respiratory+tract+infections%3A+BMJ+2017
Episode 74: The Truth About Kids With Exemptions
Parental Vaccine Refusal in Wisconsin: A Case-Control Study - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6359894/
Vaccination Coverage Rates and Factors Associated with Incomplete Vaccination or Exemption Among School-Age Children Based in Public Schools in New York State - https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2548438
Factors Associated With Refusal of Childhood Vaccines Among Patients of School-aged Children - https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/486011
Vaccine Exemptions and the Kindergarten Vaccination Coverage Gap - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Vaccine+Exemptions+and+the+Kindergarten+Vaccination+Coverage+Gap
Episode 75 and 76: Aluminum in Vaccines - Is It As Safe As They Say?
Title 21- Food and Drugs Chapter I - FDA, Department of HHS, subchapter C, Drugs, Part 201 - Labeling, Section 201.323 - Aluminum in large and small volume parenterals used in total parenteral nutrition. https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=201.323
Title 21- Food and Drugs Chapter I - FDA, Department of HHS, subchapter F - Biologics, Part 610 - General Biological Products Standards, section 610.15 - constituent materials:
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm - must enter 610.15 into the first box of the Search Database section.
Adverse events after immunization with aluminum-containing DTP vaccines: a systematic review of the evidence, Jefferson T, et al, Lancet Infectious Diseases 2004, Feb; 4(2):84-90. Cochrane Group Study
The biological behaviour and bioavailability of aluminum in man, with special reference to studies employing aluminum-26 as a tracer, Priest ND, Journal of Environmental Monitoring 2004, 6(5):375-403.
Aluminum toxicokinetics regarding infant diet and vaccinations, Keith LS, et al, Vaccine 2002, May 31; 20 suppl 3:S13-7.
Addressing parents’ concerns: do vaccines contain harmful preservatives, adjuvants, additives, or residuals? Offit PA, Jew RK, Pediatrics 2003 Dec; 112(6):1394-7.
Macrophagic myofasciitis lesions assess long-term persistence of vaccine-derived aluminum hydroxide in muscle, Gherardi M, et al, Brain 2001; 124(9):1821-31.
Effect of routine vaccination on aluminum and essential element levels in preterm infants, Movsas TZ, et al, Journal of the American Medical Association: Pediatrics 2013, Sept; 167(9):870-2.
Aluminum adjuvants used in vaccines versus placebo or no intervention, Djurisic S, et al, Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2017, Sept; Issue 9.
Aluminum neurotoxicity in preterm infants receiving intravenous feeding solutions, Bishop NJ, et al, New England Journal of Medicine 1997; 336(22):1557-61.
Aluminum toxicity in infants and children, Committee on Nutrition, American Academy of Pediatrics, Pediatrics 1996; 97:413-16.
American Society for Parenteral and Enteral Nutrition (ASPEN) statement on aluminum in parenteral nutrition solutions, Aluminum Task Force, Charmey P, Nutrition in Clinical Practice 2004; 19:416-17.
Aluminum in Childhood Vaccines is Unsafe - Neil Miller. https://www.jpands.org/vol21no4/miller.pdf
Reconsideration of the immunotherapeutic pediatric safe dose levels of aluminum, Lyons-Weiler. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0946672X17300950
Biopersistence and brain translocation of aluminum adjuvants of vaccines, Gherardi RK, et al, Frontiers in Neurology 2015, Feb 5; 6:4.
Science Nordic Article that calls for more research on aluminum: https://sciencenordic.com/denmark-vaccines-videnskabdk/new-research-project-to-investigate-aluminium-in-vaccines/1451880
Effects of aluminum on the neurotoxicity of primary cultured neurons and on the aggregations of beta-amyloid protein, Kawahara M, et al, Brain Research Bulletin 2001, May 15; 55(2):211-17.
Aluminum-adjuvanted vaccines transiently increase aluminum levels in murine brain tissue, Redhead K, et al, Pharmacology and Toxicology 1992, April; 70(4):278-80.
Aluminum hydroxide injections lead to motor deficits and motor neuron degeneration, Shaw CA, Petrik MS, Journal of Inorganic Biochemistry, 2009 Nov; 103(11):1555-62.
Long-term persistence of vaccine-derived aluminum hydroxide is associated with chronic cognitive dysfunction, Couette M, et al, Journal of Inorganic Biochemistry, 2009, Nov; 103(11):1571-8.
Aluminum impairs the glutamate-nitric oxide-cGMP pathway in cultured neurons and in rat brain in vivo: molecular mechanisms and implications for neuropathology, Canales JJ, et al, Journal of Inorganic Biochemistry 2001; 87(1-2):63-69.
Effects of aluminum exposure on brain glutamate and GABA systems: an experimental study in rats, Nanak P and Chatterjee AK, Food and Chemical Toxicology 2001; 39(12):1285-89.
Neuropathology of aluminum toxicity in rats (glutamate and GABA impairment), El-Rhaman SS, Pharmacological Research 2003; 47(3):189-94.
Systematic review of potential health risks posed by pharmaceutical, occupational, and consumer exposures to aluminum, aluminum oxides, aluminum hydroxide, and its soluble salts, Willhite CC, et al, Critical Reviews in Toxicology, 2014 Oct; 44 Suppl 4:1-80.
Aluminum in brain tissue in autism, Mold M, et al, Journal of Trace Elements in Medicine and Biology 2018, Mar; 46:76-82.
Aluminum in brain tissue in familial Alzheimer’s disease, Mirza A, et al, Journal of Trace Elements in Medicine and Biology 2017, Mar; 40:30-36.
Selected Links:
The Vaccine Book, by Robert W. Sears, MD, FAAP
Show Notes:
· For Dr. Bob, this is one of the most concerning aspect of vaccines. [1:11]
· For Melissa, aluminum went on her radar as the element found in brain tissue of those with dementia and Alzheimer’s and brain tissue of children with autism. [2:17]
· Dr. Bob began studying vaccines in 1994 and it took until 2005 for him to realize the dangers of aluminum. [3:29]
· Research study in premature babies in NICU indicates neonates with less aluminum in their IV solutions neurologically and developmentally did way better. [6:20]
· New regulation states adults and babies could only get 25mcg in their IV per day. [7:51]
· AAP published findings indicating aluminum can cause neurological harm. Infants found to have elevated levels of aluminum after taking antacids. People with kidney disease are at most risk of toxicity. [8:49]
· American Society for Parenteral and Enteral Nutrition published same findings/guidelines in 2004. [9:33]
· The reason it is in vaccines is because it is an adjuvant and helps the vaccines work. [13:22]
· Six of our vaccines have aluminum: Hib, Pneumococcal, DTP, Hep B, Hep A and HPV. [16:15]
· The vaccine with the lowest amount of aluminum contains 125 mcg and the highest contains 850 mcg of aluminum. [16:22]
· If your baby is due for six or nine vaccines in one visit, your baby can be given up to 1225 mcg in one day. [16:58]
· One vaccine is more than what is good for any baby so we don’t know if spreading vaccines out is any safer because it can accumulate. [18:37]
· In 1927, The Miller Study doctors that tested aluminum stated all salts of aluminum are poisonous when injected subcutaneously or intravenously. [23:34]
· Study called, “Aluminum in Childhood Vaccines is Unsafe” -2016 [25:08]
· 2017 Cochrane Database study disagrees with themselves by retracting previous declaration in 2004 claiming aluminum is safe. [26:17]
· Tom Verstraeten asserts injuries from Vaccine Safety Datalink could be caused by aluminum as rising number of vaccines with aluminum are introduced. [29:38]
· People will say we eat and drink aluminum all the time, it’s a light metal, 10% of the earth’s crust is made up of aluminum, it’s the most abundant metal on the planet but that doesn’t prove it’s safe to inject. [32:58]
· According to the AAP, aluminum interferes with a number of cellular and metabolic processes in the nervous system and in other tissues, and aluminum accumulates in the body when the protective gastrointestinal mechanisms are bypassed. [38:27]
· Aluminum can cause health problems in particular populations including infants and inhibits more than 200 biological functions. [39:24]
· Christopher Shaw research states continued use of aluminum carries risk for autoimmunity, long term brain inflammation, and associated neurological complications. [40:00]
· If some of this stuff can take months or years to manifest, and manufactures of vaccines use 2 to 4 days to study vaccine safety, can they say it’s totally safe? [40:35]
· The discovery that aluminum was neurotoxic was first discovered in patients with kidney problems. [45:23]
People Mentioned:
Barbara Loe Fisher, Christopher Shaw, Christopher Exley, Neil Z. Miller, Tom Verstraeten, Dr.William Weil, Dr. John Clements
Tags: aluminum, dementia, Alzheimer’s, autism, thimerosal, pneumococcal, NICU, intravenous, FDA, neurological, developmental, micrograms, AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics), antacids, kidney disease, ASPEN (American Society for Parental and Enteral Nutrition), DTP, neurotoxic, adjuvant, tetanus, proteins bonded to aluminum, Hib, Pneumococcal, DTP, Hep B, Hep A, HPV, The Miller Study, Aluminum in Childhood Vaccines is Unsafe, Developmental Delays, Tics, Attention Deficit Disorder, CDC, motor neuron deficits, synergistic effect of multiple vaccines, FDA, ALS, Amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, Lou Gehrig’s disease, Parkinson’s, Epilepsy, autoimmunity, brain inflammation, inflammation, lupus, chronic fatigue syndrome, ASIA Disease, Autoimmune/Autoinflammatory Syndrome Induced by Adjuvants, Dialysis, Immunity Education Facebook Page
Episode 79 and 80: Standing Up For Scientific Integrity: An In-Depth Interview With Dr. Chris Shaw
Follow Dr. Shaw’s work: http://neuraldynamicsubc.ca/
Contact Dr. Shaw with questions: CaShawLab@gmail.com
Ep. 81: Which Vaccines Contain Human Fetal Components?
PRODUCT INSERTS: https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/vaccines-licensed-use-united-states
Studies of immunization with living rubella virus: trials in children with a strain cultured from an aborted fetus https://autismovaccini.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/amjdischildplotkinrubellavirus.pdf
https://academic.oup.com/aje/article-abstract/86/2/468/191920?redirectedFrom=fulltext
https://www.nature.com/articles/227168a0
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRC-5
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WI-38
Video of Dr. Plotkin deposition: https://youtu.be/PN7FQCkiBp8
Video of Dr. Offit: https://youtu.be/8lMBzHLB704
https://academicjournals.org/article/article1411048618_Deisher%20et%20al.pdf
SHOW NOTES:
SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE:
Dr. Bob’s Speech from VIE Event in Washington DC
Vaxfacts, Volume 1
Facebook: Melissa Floyd
Instagram: @MelissaSuzannemusic
· Melissa’s latest project promo, vax facts and how to order/contact Melissa. [5:31]
· What is the correct amount of vaccine doses on the current schedule including flu shots? [8:57]
· Dr. Bob shares MMR was the first vaccine to use fetal cell lines. [11:24]
· Rubella propagated with WI38 human diploid lung fibroblasts is a fancy term for lung cells taken from an aborted fetus. [11:39]
· Trials in children showing the cell lines were taken from a Rubella infected mother who wanted to terminate her pregnancy. [12:52]
· The same Rubella virus has been replicated since the 1960’s. [14:30]
· Dr. Bob explains how the virus was extracted from the tissues of the aborted fetus. [14:40]
· The MMR insert used to say there are traces of fetal DNA and proteins. [16:14]
· Page 6 Section 11 of the insert shows Varivax is grown in a few different animal tissues then propagated in human cell cultures. It’s shipped to Merck and Merck grows it further as MRC-5. [17:34]
· On page 7, it says the product also contains residual components of MRC5 cells including DNA and protein. [20:05]
· Hepatitis A: Page 9, Section 11 it says Havrix also contains MRC-5 proteins. [25:19]
· Pentacel is a 5 in 1 DTaP, Polio and HiB. [26:05]
· The Polio virus are grown in separate cultures of MRC-5 cells. [26:23]
· Why does Paul Offit think it’s not that big of a deal? [27:30]
· Is this foreign DNA being incorporated into our own DNA as the foundation of autoimmune disease? [29:22]
· How do Senators from California get away with denying these ingredients are in vaccines? [30:08]
· There are fetal DNA, fetal proteins and they use fetal cells to grow the viruses to make the vaccines. [30:53]
· How a lawyer helped a mother requesting religious exemption on her court case. Wistar Institute Study. [33:26]
· What is the potential harm in using aborted fetal cells? [35:23]
· Did neurodevelopmental disorders and autism increase after each introduction of vaccines containing fetal cell lines? [38:05]
· Are newborn babies more susceptible to incorporation of foreign viral DNA into their own DNA? [39:14]
· Do vaccines have differing quantities of fetal cell lines and sometimes go beyond what is considered “safe?” [41:38]
· Victoria, Canada Study showed detection of mutations, variants and other viruses. [42:06]
· What did The Corvelva Study discover? [44:27]
· Should it be ok to regard a fetus as just cells usable for scientific exploration? [47:32]
· The real reason WI38 was needed, and it has nothing to do with safety. [48:40]
· What is the official position of the Catholic Church on the use of vaccines containing aborted fetal cell lines? [51:00]
· What is Dr. Bob’s mom opinion on this? [54:58]
· How are Christians worldwide being silenced? [57:38]
· Why isn’t this boycotted? [58:29]
· Should everyone, religious or not, be concerned about this? [1:00:45]
PEOPLE MENTIONED: Dr. Stanley Plotkin, Dr. Paul Offit, ZdoggMD, Dr. Theresa Deisher, Leonard Hayflick
TAGS: Vax Facts, MMR, measles, rubella, chicken pox, herpes, Havrix, Pentacel, Polio, HiB, MRC-5, monkey kidney virus, injected vs. ingested, Wistar Institute Study, fetal DNA, fetal proteins, abortion, autism, neurodevelopmental disorders, DNA, fetal cell lines, retrovirus, Corvelva Study, WI38, Catholic Church, Christianity, Religion
Ep. 82: Meeting Jimmy Kimmel - How Compassion Creates a Shift
Melissa’s Facebook post about her meeting with Jimmy: https://www.facebook.com/1027965023/posts/10219192421574536/
Link to buying “My Son/Daughter/Loved One Was Injured By Vaccines” and “Stop the Discrimination” T-shirts: https://www.visforvaccine.com/apparel.html
SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE:
VisforVaccine.com
SHOW NOTES:
· Melissa shares a solid, positive review titled, Inspired Starfish, along with Dr. Bob’s “promise” to not be so funny. [1:11]
· Melissa reads amazing quote Adapted from The Star Thrower, by Loren Eiseley (1907 – 1977) [4:08]
· Melissa reminds us we don’t have to be a certain kind of person to make a difference in this. [6:00]
· Dr. Bob receives a text from Melissa warning him she might get arrested. [7:05]
· Melissa describes Jimmy Kimmel Show visit with parents wearing shirts about their loved ones that were vaccine injured with the goal being not to anger. [7:28]
· Melissa describes the ping pong match in her head as she deals with anxiety. [14:30]
· The perfect message that opens the door. [24:44]
· Melissa shares details regarding Jimmy Kimmel’s book signing. [26:20]
· Melissa gains respect for Jimmy when his producer advises him to shut down a conversation with Joshua Coleman and he chose not to. [31:00]
· How Jimmy Kimmel chose to be a human toward Melissa that day. [35:44]
· The ultimate goal described by Melissa. [42:00]
· Send holiday cards to Dr. Bob’s office! [1:01:00]
PEOPLE MENTIONED: Lauren Eiseley, Jimmy Kimmel, Joshua Coleman
TAGS: vaccine injured, The Jimmy Kimmel Show, The Star Thrower, peaceful demonstration, civil disobedience
Ep. 84: How to Get Vaccinated Without Parental Consent
Wikihow article: Click here
Ep. 85: Victory in New Jersey: How Did They Do It? (Part 1)
Link to Innovative Parenting or text NJSHF to 313131
New Jersey Coalition for Vaccination Choice website
Show Notes:
· Melanie Dragone shared the original bill introduced in 2018 was to tighten the religious exemption but in 2019 a member of the senate amended the bill to completely eliminate religious exemptions. [3:45]
· On December 12th, there was a senate health committee meeting where three democrats who opposed the bill were replaced with two other democrats and Senator Sweeney by Senator Sweeney. [5:50]
· On Monday December 16th, the full assembly and the full senate had it slated to vote on the bill, but they did not have the votes and it was pulled from the agenda. [8:30]
· During December 16th, and January 9th, Melanie’s people spent time showing up at district offices to meet with legislators and created twitter storms. [9:33]
· The bill gets amended to appease republican senator, which changed the language to exclude private schools from the bill. [10:28]
· Private schools were going to be required to display a sign indicating the percentage of noncompliant children, parents would need to sign documentation indicating understanding of the percentage of unvaccinated children and that they were aware they were putting their kids and others at risk. [12:09]
· A medical exemption would only be acceptable if a sibling of a child had a vaccine injury compensated child. [12:59]
· Was the bill’s amended language to exclude private school socioeconomically and religiously discriminatory and did this work to the people’s advantage? [14:50]
· Key leaders that show constant presence and masses are both necessary to stop these bills. [23:35]
· Melanie shares the secret to getting people to show up. [25:45]
· Melanie describes that last victory day when waiting for the vote that never came. [30:00]
· A new, amended bill has re-emerged for the next two-year 2020 session renamed as S902 and A969. [33:20]
· How does Melanie find the energy to keep going? [34:05]
· Melissa states it’s all about consistent presence, getting into district offices, showing up at events and making sure you are visible at all times. [37:55]
· If you’re looking for a hero in this movement all you just need to look in the mirror. -Louise Kuo Habakus. [39:04]
People Mentioned: Melanie Dragone, MSW, LSW, Stephen M. Sweeney, Louise Kuo Habakus, Herb Conaway Jr.,
Tags: religious exemptions, medical exemptions, New Jersey Health Committee, twitter storm, vaccine injury compensation, macro public organization, HPV, S902, A969
Ep. 86: New Jersey Part 2
Louis Kuo Habakus article: 8 Keys to Victory
Selected Links:
Show Notes:
· What was the difference between New Jersey’s victory and California’s loss? [9:15]
· Were politicians in California prepped and trained between 2015 and 2019 to disconnect from their constituents? [11:38]
· How did Senator Sweeney punish Senator Lagana and make him lose funding for not supporting this bill? [16:25]
· The narrative is changing from calling people antivaxxers to calling them protestors and parents. [17:48]
· Knowledge that this is a nationwide issue means support needs to cross state lines. [21:35]
· A lot more dads showed up in New Jersey and New York, which helped bring a more complete face to this oppression. [22:50]
· Does the issue of vaccine injury resonate more with male legislators when they see male participants in the crowds? [26:56]
· Dr. Bob shared his advice for continuing to find energy for longevity in this fight. [31:30]
· Melissa and Dr. Bob respond to article from Fearlessparent.org titled “Jersey Strong: Not Today Either S2173” by Louise Kuo Habakus - 8 principles to step up advocacy. [37:44]
People Mentioned: Susan Sweeten, Holly, Senator Tessa, Mary Holland, Senator Lagana, Gopaul, Leanne in Conneticut, Susan Johnson, Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, Samiah
Tags: New Jersey, victory, California, corruption, vaccine injury, protestors, panic, parents, advocacy, skillsets, hero, dads, neighbors, voting bloc, activism
Ep. 87 and 88: Big Announcement and Oprah’s Worrisome Connection with a Questionable Pharmaceutical Company
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ACIP Pneumococcal meeting June 2019
Pfizer Corporate Rap Sheet with sources
Show Notes:
· Two Upcoming fundraisers; February 22, 2020 in San Juan Capistrano (actually NOW CHANGED TO MAY 1) and February 29, 2020 in Brentwood. [2:13]
· Proceeds go directly toward funding equipment and travel for taking the podcast to other states and making it into a movie. [6:49]
· Now is the time to donate in case you’ve been wondering about ways you can help out. [7:06]
· The first location for The Vaccine Conversation Live National Tour will be Northern California and then Texas during the 20th-22nd weekend of March 2020. [9:05]
· The Vaccine Conversation will be in New York, New Jersey and Connecticut during the last weekend in March. [10:10]
· Anyone present at events might be in the movie. [12:15]
· Dr. Bob reminds everyone there is a new podcast website with a recurring donation link https://anchor.fm/thevaccineconversation/support and thank you to Rebecca and Justine for being the first listeners to sign up for a monthly donation to help sustain future episodes. [13:28]
· The new Oprah Wellness Tour, sponsored by Pfizer, advertises the flu shot and the pneumococcal shot. [16:00]
· Pfizer is the only pharmaceutical company that makes and owns the patent for the pneumococcal (Prevnar13) shot on the childhood vaccine schedule. [19:22]
· In 2014, ACIP (Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices) gave a universal recommendation for the pneumococcal shot for adults over 65, and Pfizer went from having 3% of the market to 47%. [19:38]
· Once Pfizer reached 47% of market, they got to a 6-billion-dollar profit margin. [20:55]
· In 2019, the ACIP removed the recommendation after there was no decline in pneumonia cases.
· In an ACIP meeting, it was admitted that Prevnar only covers 4% of pneumonia cases. [22:08]
· Pfizer only had to prove the vaccine created antibodies in the bloodstream to gain ACIP’s recommendation. [22:34]
· 8 ACIP members voted to take away their recommendation for the vaccine and 6 members wanted to keep it. [24:08]
· Pfizer took a 2% stock hit after losing ACIP’s endorsement then signed on with Oprah’s Wellness Tour. Was this the perfect opportunity for damage control and prime advertising? [26:30]
· Pfizer is the largest pharmaceutical company in the world known for aggressive marketing including being the first to put ads in medical journals. [28:15]
· Pfizer has been charged for product safety and marketing fraud on numerous products. [32:37]
· After WWII, Pfizer was the first to market directly to hospitals and physicians running ads using fictitious doctor’s names. [34:51]
· In 1996, Pfizer was ordered by the FDA to stop making unauthorized and misleading medical claims for Zoloft.
· Pfizer had to pay millions of dollars for misleading ads for a childhood antibiotic, Zithromax. [37:05]
People Mentioned: Joshua Coleman, Oprah Winfrey,
Tags: The Vaccine Conversation Podcast Tour, Pfizer, pharmaceutical company, celebrity endorsement, ACIP, false advertisement, misleading ads, New York Times,
Ep. 89: Saving Humanity From Aluminum: An In-Depth Interview With Dr. Christopher Exley
Nature article that he described as instrumental in opening his eyes: https://www.nature.com/articles/338146a0
Link to his website: https://www.keele.ac.uk/aluminium/
Link to DONATE to his research (select “Dr. Exley’s Research” from the drop down menu): https://epay.keele.ac.uk/donations
Link to his email sign up: https://maillists.keele.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/alsiresearch
Follow him on Instagram @ProfessorChris
His blog on various topics, including Aluminum in vaccines: https://www.hippocraticpost.com/?s=Exley
The immunobiology of aluminium adjuvants - how do they really work, Trends in Immunology, 2010: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Aluminium+adjuvants+-+how+do+they+really+work+Trends+in+Immunology+in+2010
Aluminum and Amyloid-B in Familial Alzheimer’s Disease: https://content.iospress.com/articles/journal-of-alzheimers-disease/jad191140
Paper on how to choose a Silicon-rich mineral water that contains salicic acid: https://www.silicawaters.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Silicon-Fact-Sheet.pdf
Selected Links:
World Health Organization (December 2019 meeting footage)
Show Notes (the word “aluminium” as used in the UK is written as “aluminum” here):
· How did Dr. Exley’s 30 years of work with aluminum research lead him to the controversial vaccine issue? [3:44]
· Dr. Exley’s work points out that lab experiments using “aluminum adjuvants” did not actually use the same aluminum compounds used in commercially available vaccines as if all aluminum salts result in the same biological response. [7:00]
· The investment in knowledge from the 1920’s until today in how adjuvants work is still minimal. [9:54]
· The toxicity of aluminum in all living things including humans is well known. [12:25]
· Could toxicity at the injection site be translocated elsewhere in the body? [14:55]
· When aluminum is injected, hundreds of thousands of [immune] cells race to the injection site, eat the aluminum (attached to the antigen) and carry the aluminum to parts of the body including the lymph nodes and other areas of the body including the brain. [15:08]
· As government continues to deny the existence of adverse events, the numbers of those affected continues to rise. [19:48]
· The British Medical Journal refused to publish Dr. Exley’s recent blog pointing out his information regarding aluminum for not containing anything “useful” for parents. [22:45]
· Public trust in the propaganda industry is gained by not completely denying there are certain risks with aluminum when in reality the entire story is kept from the public because of funding from the pharmaceutical industry. [23:06]
· What is Dr. Exley’s scary conclusion after beginning with the original quest to discover aluminum’s role in biology? [27:53]
· If the government remains unwilling to share this information, the only way to disseminate this information to the public is through podcasts like The Vaccine Conversation. [29:29]
· Dr. Exley’s research has always been suppressed and received negative press, but his science remains undebated and undisputed by other scientists. [32:53]
· The power of the aluminum industry prevents Dr. Exley’s work from being featured throughout media outlets including his most recent study regarding Alzheimer’s Disease. [34:00]
· Dr. Exley shared aluminum as an adjuvant contributes to adverse events in at least 3% of all recipients based on Merck’s studies on Gardasil. [36:01]
· Since 1995, because grants are scarce in this area of research, the groups of researchers dwindled. [41:48]
· What were the implications of Dr. Exley’s research results regarding familial Alzheimer’s Disease published last week? [43:00]
· Dr. Exley stated that without aluminum in the brain, there will be no Alzheimer’s Disease. [46:48]
· Dr. Exley explained what makes up “the aluminum industry.” [48:55]
· Dr. Bob asked if there is any good science addressing detoxification of aluminum with silica water. [51:47]
· When you join silicic acid and aluminum together, the aluminum becomes inert. [53:30]
· Clinically relevant cognitive function improvements were seen after Alzheimer’s participants drank 1 Liter of silica rich water for 12 weeks. [54:02]
· Future research in the improvement of cognition using silica rich water will require philanthropic funding. [57:42]
· Sign up for Dr. Exley’s email list through Keele University to receive updates. [1:01:24]
People Mentioned: Dr. Christopher Exley, Dr. Chris Shaw, Dr. George Perry, Dr. Matt Mole
Tags: aluminium, aluminum, aluminum adjuvants, adverse reactions, toxicity, antigen, World Health Organization, NHS, British Medical Journal, thalidomide, aluminum industry, Merck, Gardasil, NIH, research funding, grants, amyloid beta, amyloid cascade hypothesis, Alzheimer’s Disease, London, Medellin, Colombia, microscopy, pharmaceuticals, nutriceuticals, detoxification, detox, silicates, silicon, silicic acid, The Aluminum Federation, The International Aluminum Institute
Ep. 90: Unintended Consequences of Tdap During Pregnancy: Decreased Immune Response in Infants After Their Own Vaccines
Study: A randomized controlled trial of the safety and immunogenicity of tetanus, diphtheria, and acellular pertussis vaccine immunization during pregnancy and subsequent infant immune response - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30010773
Study: The 112-year odyssey of pertussis and pertussis vaccines - mistakes made and implications for the future - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=the+112-year+odessey
Ep. 91: Coronavirus: Should We All Be Concerned?
Article: Don’t worry about coronavirus. Worry about the flu. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/danvergano/coronavirus-cases-deaths-flu
Ep. 92: Seeking Truth and Justice: An In-Depth Interview with Former DA Nico LaHood
Don’t miss our LIVE Podcast Tour starting in San Antonio and Dallas March 27 and 28. Sign up here!
Ep. 93: Coronavirus Update and How to Count the 69 Doses on the CDC Vaccine Schedule
Link to letter Dr. Bob read from the Infectious Disease specialist about coronavirus
Ep. 94: How to Respond to “Vaccinate Your Damn Kids!”
Search Melissa Floyd TruthPart40 on Facebook for her article.
Find Melissa’s two albums, “Melissa Suzanne Conversations With Myself” and “Melissa Suzanne EP” by searcing on Apple Music or iTunes. Enjoy!
Ep. 98: The Coronavirus Debate (Parts 1 and 2)
The following resources were discussed in this episode or in previous temporary coronavirus updates that we posted a few weeks ago:
Video on two Bakersfield doctors about the risks of a strict lockdown
Article on two Bakersfield doctors
99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says - Bloomber March 18
Israeli Nobel Laureate: Coronavirus Spread Is Slowing - Jerusalem Post March 20
Coronavirus Overshadows a Deadly Flu Season - US News March 20
Is Our Fight Against Coronavirus Worse Than the Disease? - NY Times March 20
Covid-19: Evidence Over Hysteria - March 22
UK Guidelines on High Consequence Infectious Diseases
Covid-19: Navigating the Uncharted - New England Journal of Medicine March 26, Fauci et al.
Ep. 101 and 102: How To Make the Coronavirus Vaccine Mandatory
Article from the Saskatchewan herald
Ep. 103: Pushing Back Against State Government: An In-Depth Conversation with County Supervisor Kirk Uhler
California Law 8629 - Ending a state of emergency
California Law 8625 - Declaring a state of emergency
California Law 8558 - Defining a state of emergency
Follow him on Twitter: @KirkUhler
Ep. 105: Is the New “Mystery Illness” in Children Connected to COVID?
Kawasaki-like disease: emerging complication during the COVID-19 pandemic, Lancet May 13
Asian Review: Kawasaki disease symptoms observed in coronavirus-infected children
Ep. 106: Are Children the Primary Spreaders of Covid?
Children are not COVID-19 super spreaders: time to go back to school
Evidence summary of potential for children to contribute to transmission of SARS-CoV-2
Children unlikely to be the main drivers of the Covid-19 pandemic
Ep. 107: If Asyptomatic People Don’t Spread Covid, What Are We All Doing This For?
Asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is 'very rare,' WHO says, CNBC
WHO official walks back comments on asymptomatic transmission being ‘very rare,’ USA Today
A study on infectivity of asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 carriers, Respiratory Medicine
Ep. 108: Special Announcements and Update on Hydroxychloroquine and Covid
Coronovirus and hydroxychloroquine: What do we know?
Retraction letter from the above study
Melissa’s new podcast: What They Aren’t Telling You with Melissa Floyd
Dr. Bob’s new podcast: A Tale of Two Sides: A Novel on Vaccines and Disease
Ep. 111: Mandatory Covid Vaccine? Here’s How They Think They Should Do It.
New England Journal of Medicine article
Ep. 114: Are Mandatory Flu Shots Coming Your Way?
Physicians for Informed Consent letter about flu vaccine and Resources: https://physiciansforinformedconsent.org/physicians-for-informed-consent-letter-opposing-uc-regents-flu-vaccine-mandate/
BMJ article on flu policy: https://www.bmj.com/content/333/7574/912
Cochrane Blog: https://community.cochrane.org/news/why-have-three-long-running-cochrane-reviews-influenza-vaccines-been-stabilised
Three Cochrane Reports: https://www.cochrane.org/news/featured-review-three-updated-cochrane-reviews-assessing-effectiveness-influenza-vaccines
Cochrane Op eds: http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Cochrane+review+vaccine+definitive+health+officer+suggests/7543272/story.html and http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Opinion+Scientist+fires+latest+shot+mandatory+vaccine+debate/7572719/story.html
California law prohibiting mercury flu shots to pregnant woman and children under 3: https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/Immunization/laws.aspx
Peter Doshi study about Flu vaccine marketing: https://www.bmj.com/content/346/bmj.f3037.full
Peter Doshi — Are US flu death figures more PR than science? https://www.bmj.com/content/331/7529/1412
Ep 116: National Podcast Tour Update
https://immunityeducationgroup.org/live-podcast-tour-dates - click here to get your tickets for Dallas Event November 5, 2020.