When a topic as complex as vaccines becomes socially taboo, where do you go to talk about it? Join pediatrician Dr. Bob Sears and Melissa, mother and health freedom educator, on this informative podcast where we discuss everything from disease outbreaks to vaccine risks and side effects, the vaccine schedule, media hype, vaccine laws and controversies, and everything in between.

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The Vaccine Conversation Podcast with Melissa & Dr. Bob

Episode 1: Why We Are Doing This

Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org

FDA website for package inserts: https://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/ucm093833.htm

Federal Law VIS forms: http://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p2027.pdf

Federal Law 1986 Act: https://www.nvic.org/about/notable-accomplishments-and-history.aspx

CDC schedule: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/index.html

Vaccine schedule Infographic: http://immunityeducationgroup.org/infographics/


Episode 2: Vaccine Media Sound Bites

Download Be The Peace: The Vaccine Conversation Podcast Theme Song by Melissa Suzanne OR search for the song in Spotify or other music platforms – hint: it may be listed as an ALBUM, not a song.

Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org

Psychology Today Article: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/two-takes-depression/201106/if-it-bleeds-it-leads-understanding-fear-based-media

Pharmaceutical Advertising on News Networks: https://www.periscopegroup.com/news/breaking-news/corruption-before-consumers-copy-copy

Vaccine Schedule Never Tested for Safety: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK206938/

95% Herd Immunity Estimate: https://academic.oup.com/aje/article-abstract/117/1/2/87767?redirectedFrom=fulltext


Episode 3: The Vaccine Schedule – 69 Doses and Rising

Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org

CDC schedule: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/index.html

Vaccine schedule Infographic: http://immunityeducationgroup.org/infographics/


Episode 4: Informed Consent- Are We Really Getting It?

Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org

AMA Code: https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/ethics/informed-consent

Informed Consent Study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2840885/

VIS forms: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/current-vis.html


Episode 5: Attacking Medical Exemptions?

Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org

Study on Implementation of SB277 and Medical Exemptions: https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/142/5/e20181051

Understanding SB277: http://immunityeducationgroup.org/understanding-the-new-vaccine-law-in-california/


Episode 6: Media, Measles, and Misinformation

Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org

NBC article on measles in Europe: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/measles-outbreak-raging-europe-could-be-brought-u-s-doctors-n922146


Episode 7: The Flu Vaccine Debate – Part 1

Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org

CBS article on the Flu: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/flu-deaths-u-s-estimates-80000-americans-died-of-flu-and-its-complications-last-winter-2018-09-26/

Dr. Brownstein’s article on inflated numbers from the CDC: https://www.drbrownstein.com/more-fake-flu-news-from-the-cdc/

BMJ article on flu policy: https://www.bmj.com/content/333/7574/912

Cochrane Blog: https://community.cochrane.org/news/why-have-three-long-running-cochrane-reviews-influenza-vaccines-been-stabilised 

Three Cochrane Reports: https://www.cochrane.org/news/featured-review-three-updated-cochrane-reviews-assessing-effectiveness-influenza-vaccines 

NVIC Flu Vaccine side effects: https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/influenza/quick-facts.aspx


Episode 8: The Flu Vaccine Debate – Part 2

Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org

Cochrane Op eds: http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Cochrane+review+vaccine+definitive+health+officer+suggests/7543272/story.html and http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Opinion+Scientist+fires+latest+shot+mandatory+vaccine+debate/7572719/story.html 

California law prohibiting mercury flu shots to pregnant woman and children under 3: https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/Immunization/laws.aspx

Peter Doshi study about Flu vaccine marketing: https://www.bmj.com/content/346/bmj.f3037.full

Peter Doshi — Are US flu death figures more PR than science? https://www.bmj.com/content/331/7529/1412 


Episode 9: Overview of Vaccines and Diseases for Infants – Part 1: 0-6 months old

Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org

CDC schedule: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/index.html

Disease prevalence and vaccine information: The Vaccine Book by Dr. Bob Sears


Episode 10: Why Are More Highly Educated People More Likely to Question Vaccines?

Our website: www.immunityeducationgroup.org

Names of Studies Referenced:

Children who have receive no vaccines: who are they and where do they live? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Children+Who+Have+Received+No+Vaccines%3A+Who+Are+They+and+Where+Do+They+Live%3F+(2004) 

Deciding to opt out of childhood vaccination mandates (2008) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Deciding+to+opt+out+of+childhood+vaccination+mandates+(2008) 

Differences in risk factors for partial and no immunisation in the first year of life: prospective cohort study (U.K.) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Differences+in+risk+factors+for+partial+and+no+immunisation+in+the+first+year+of+life%3A+prospective+cohort+study+(U.K.) 

Parents attitudinal and social influences on childhood vaccination (1992) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Parents+attitudinal+and+social+influences+on+childhood+vaccination+(1992)

Neoliberal Mothering and Vaccine Refusal (2014) https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0891243214532711 


Episodes 11 to 32 – resources coming soon!


Episode 33: Meningococcal: the Disease and the Vaccine

Some disease stats and VAERS data on the vaccine:



Episode 36: How Japan, the Healthiest Nation in the World, Approaches Vaccination Policy

A Review of Factors Affecting Vaccine Preventable Disease in Japan: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4300546/ 

CNN article on world health rankings for child and infant mortality: https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/08/health/child-mortality-rates-by-country-study-intl/index.html 

Lawsuits in Japan over HPV vaccine reactions: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/02/13/national/crime-legal/suit-opens-tokyo-court-cervical-cancer-vaccine-side-effects/ 


Episode 39: Why the Pertussis Vaccine Makes You MORE Susceptible

Genomic Survey Of Bordetella Pertussis Diversity, United States, 2000 – 2013. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6433035/?report=classic 

The 112- year odyssey of pertussis and pertussis vaccines — mistakes made and implications for the future. https://academic.oup.com/jpids/advance-article-abstract/doi/10.1093/jpids/piz005/5359449 

Harvard-Westlake high school pertussis outbreak. https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-ln-whooping-cough-vaccine-20190316-story.html 

LA Times: Why did so many CA kids get whooping cough despite being vaccinated? https://www.latimes.com/health/la-me-whooping-cough-20160205-story.html

DTP mortality studies: 

https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/33/2/374/715842 – 4.5 times higher mortality rate after DTP vaccine


https://www.bmj.com/content/355/bmj.i5170 – shows less of an effect – about 1.5 times higher mortality rate


Episode 42: How the FDA Manipulates the Media

Article: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/flu-vaccine-recommendation.htm 

Article: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-the-fda-manipulates-the-media/


Episode 45: Tetanus: The Disease and the Vaccine

NVIC article on tetanus: https://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/Tetanus/quick-facts.aspx


Episode 46: Are Rich People Leading the Vaccine-Educated Movement?

Money Magazine article – http://money.com/money/5641663/anti-vaccine-rich-people/ 


Episode 51: Vaccine Reactions, Vaccine Overdose, and Denying Informed Consent?

ACIP/CDC Contraindications and Precautions to Vaccination


Episode 52: How to Grow a Healthy Immune System

Harvard article – https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/how-to-boost-your-immune-system   

Dr. Suzanne Humphries Vitamin C Protocol – (scroll down to THE PROTOCOL near the bottom): http://drsuzanne.net/2017/10/sodium-ascorbate-vitamin-c-treatment-of-whooping-cough-suzanne-humphries-md/ 

Recipes at https://www.paleorunningmomma.com/


Episode 53: Vaccine Injury Compensation Program Table of Reactions

Reactions that are on the VICP list


Episode 54: The REAL Reason We Are Seeing More Outbreaks of Measles

The Future of Measles in Highly Immunized Populations – 1984 Study


Episode 56: Origin of the Anti-Compulsory Vaccination Movement

Article: Class, Gender, and the Conscientious Objector to Vaccination: 1898-1907

(Abstract only – access to the full article can be requested from the journal)



Episode 59: A Tragic Case — the Heartbreaking Story of Dustin Barton 

Court case: Lori Barton v. Secretary of Health and Human Services 


Episode 60: Bringing Truth to Light — An In-Depth Interview with Del Bigtree

Watch The HighWire on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q 

Follow him on Facebook: The HighWire with Del Bigtree

Get educated on his ICAN website: www.ICANdecide.org – consider donating.


Episode 62: Dr. Bob Sears’ Story in the LA Times

LA Times story on Dr. Bob Sears


Episode 63: Personal Tragedy to a Personal Mission — In-Depth Interview with V is for Vaccine creator Joshua Coleman 

Joshua Coleman’s website: www.VisforVaccine.com 


Episode 65: Are Febrile Seizures Really Harmless? 

Febrile Seizures Tied to High Risk of Mental Illness, Epilepsy – Medscape July 4, 2019 

The study that we discussed was just published (after our podcast). Here it is! Evaluation of long-term risk of epilepsy, psychiatric disorders, and mortality among children with recurrent febrile seizures a national cohort sudy in denmark 

Link to information on 1 in 500 risk of seizures with MMR vaccine 

Childhood seizures and risk of psychiatric disorders in adolescence and adulthood: a Danish nationwide cohort study 

Temporal Association of Certain Neuropsychiatric Disorders Following Vaccination of Children and Adolescents: A Pilot Case-Control Study 


Episode 66: How to Report a Doctor to the Medical Board for Vaccine Negligence 

Link to Dr. Bob on Allie Beth Stuckey’s RELATABLE podcast

Link to Dr. Bob on Dr. Berlin’s Informed Pregnancy Podcast

Link to Guide on How to Report a Doctor to the Medical Board for Vaccine Negligence


Episode 67: 1986 Media Coverage of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act

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Vaccine Injury Fund Bill Approved but Faces Veto – LA Times

Reagan Signs Bill on Drug Exports and Payment for Vaccine Injuries